UAEU-CAVE Discussion Forum
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From: Neveen Hamza
To: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
26/1/2004 04:50
Subject:
That was impressive
I got the
link to your VR work and I think it is full of potential.
Ms. Neveen Hamza
Senior
lecturer in Architectural Technology
School of
the Built Environment
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From: Ahmad
Okeil
To: P-Alizadeh
Date:
Subject:
request more information about cave lab
Dear Mr. Alizadeh,
Thanks for your interest. The Lab equipment cost something around 30 000
Ahmad Okeil
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From: P-Alizadeh
To: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
Subject: request more
information about cave lab
Dear Dr okeil
Hello;
I am an
architect that working as faculty member of Islamic Art University of Tabriz-Iran,During surfing on
internet i saw ur lecture
about cave lab on http://archnet.org/lobby.tc and find it interesting and
would be establishe
that lab in our architecture collage, then i will be
thankful if u give me more information about "how much cost total
equipments and also would know about all hardware and safware u use .
in advance
thanking of
sincerely
P-Alizadeh
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From: Ahmad
Okeil
To: Wael Abdelhameed, ASCAAD (Arab
Society for Computer aided Architectural Design)
Date:
Subject: VR in architecture: controversy
Dear Dr. Wael,
Thanks for your interest.
Well, I do
not share this opinion. I would say that all types of presentations are
representations of vague images in the designer's mind. All types of
presentations (sketches, ortho projections, axonometrics, physical models, perspectives, renderings, animations, ...etc.) suffer from a degree of abstraction and
therefore they are misguiding one way or the other. Ortho
projections drop the third dimension. Professional perspective drawers
tend to "beautify" the designs they are working on by stretching one
part, shrinking another part, so that the perspective, not the building, gives
a better impresion. Renderings and animations
are selective and tend to show only the good sides of a project. So, I beleive, the more realistic a presentaion
type is, the less the risk of being missguiding
should it be. I think VR can uncover bad designs.
But there is also the problem of people impressed by the presentation technique
more than by the content and quality of the design. I remember in the 70s
and 80s the effect of using Zip-A-Tone and/or the hatching machine on clients.
In the 90s came computer renderings and animations. VR is not any
different. People might get impressed. But there is no way to stop
the trend towards using VR. All we can do is to train ourselves and the
community we are living in to concentrate on design issues more than we
concentrate on presentation techniques.
I also remember in the late 70s there was a big controversy whether to allow
university students to attend exams with a simple calculator or not. Opposers predicted that calculators would kill calculating
abilities of the human mind. Today we see a younger generations that has
difficulties performing simple calculations without a calculator. But
this generation can do other things older generation would struggle with.
Think of programming, think of strategy games, think of searching for
information from several sources. These are only a few examples. I
also remember in school I had to do multiplications using algorithmic tables
and using slide rulers. Does anybody miss these tools today?
Next semester Inshaa Allah, I will be using the CAVE
in teaching a course called "Selected Topics in Architecture".
This course offers more room for experimentation than a normal design studio
course does. I hope to be able to answer some of the questions you have
raised by the end of next semester. I will be concentrating on
issues like monitoring student motivation and whether it will fade away after
they get used to the CAVE. Will it be difficult for them to return to
less-tech techniques? But I do need some brainstorming from ascaad members specially those in the field of
education. Any ideas or proposals are welcome.
I also see the UAEU-CAVE as an opportunity to gain first-hand experience in a field
that is still open for exploration. I hope that research
papers published reporting our experience in the CAVE will be cited and would
represent a new contribution in the field. I am already getting some
inquiries from professors in american universities,
who are interested either in a low cost CAVE or
in a CAVE that is flexible to experiment with.
Ahmad Okeil
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From: Wael Abdelhameed
To: ASCAAD
(Arab Society for Computer aided Architectural Design)
Date:
12/1/2004 01:31
Subject: VR
in architecture: controversy
Professor
Okeil,
First, I
would like to congratulate the UAEU and you for using this advanced technology.
I'll seize
this to bring up to all members a controversy about using Virtual Reality. Many
researchers find the generation of hyper-realistic rendering-simulations
usually misguided during the design process; the conventional use of VR within
the design process limits its potential to be just a tool for producing such
visually real images (Bricken W., the research
director of the Human Interface Technology Lab in Seattle; Bermudez J.,
professor of architecture at Utah University; etc).
From my
point of view, the following question will be very important: how does using VR
affect the Design Process and the Design Capabilities of architects? Exploring
these arenas will shed more light about the foregoing controversy.
My best for
all members, and please let's share our thoughts and views.
Wael Abdelhameed, PhD.
Lecturer,
Faculty of Fine Arts at Luxor,
South
valley University, Egypt.
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From: student@uaeu.ac.ae
To: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
11/1/2004 12:47
Subject:
Design 2 Project
السلام
عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
صراحه
لقد اعجبني الجهاز جدا واتمنى
ان يتم توفير جهاز مماثل خاص بالطالبات
( هو لازم يعني اي حاجه جديد تكون للاولاد اول شي
ليه الظلم ده حرااااام والله حرااام)
وشكرا
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From: Ahmad
Okeil
To: Carlton Newton
Date:
11/1/2004 01:33
Subject:
CAVE running Cortona
Thanks for your interest.
You might want to download and try http://geovrml.com/pub/EMIExtDevHandler.zip
This solution can map input from joysticks, keyboards, mice, etc. to any of the
85 different eventOuts supported by the
device manager.
I did not succeed in making it work with the 5dt data glove or with the 3d connexion space ball both connected to the serial
port. Maybe I did not try hard enough.
I managed to make it work with joysticks, keyboards,
mice, and the itrax2 tracker. It appears to be working very well with
input devices connected to the USB port. New 10$ digital joysticks can be
easily modified to function as interfaces to self developed input devices such
as tread mills for example.
I also experimented with tracking moving light points captured by a video
camera. The tracking program wrote X, Y
coordinates of points in a file in ascii
format. I know that it is possible to make VRML read data from that ascii file at very short
intervals.
I hope this answers your question. Please let me know if have more questions.
Ahmad Okeil
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From: Carlton Newton
To: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
10/1/2004 10:52
Subject:
CAVE running Cortona
I noted with interest your brief post indicating
that you were using the Cortona VRML client in a Cave
environment. I am interested in the possibility of using Cortona at Virginia Commonwealth University where I teach.
Have you successfully used Cortona with a tracking
device of any kind that would permit a user to physically move around an
environment? If so I would very much appreciate hearing how you did it.
Thank you,
Carlton Newton
Assistant Chair, Sculpture Department
Director, Fine Arts Digital Media Studios
Virginia Commonwealth University
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From: Ahmad
Okeil
To: Omar Khattab
Date:
09/01/2004 11:30
Subject:
Re: First student project on the CAVE
Dear Omar,
If you have a chance to bring the students from Kuwait and come it could be a great event for both departments. Do you think you can really bring them and come? I just got the idea of organizing something like a small festival were selected students from different universities in the region come, display and discuss their models.
Ahmad Okeil
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From: Omar Khattab
To: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
09/01/2004 11:21
Subject:
Re: First student project on the CAVE
Dear Ahmad,
Thank you
so much for your extended and satisfying reply. I really learnt a lot. What interested me the most is that you
designed and built the UAE CAVE by yourself. This is great.
Yes, what I
meant is to bring our students, or at least their work and models to be tried
on the your
CAVE. Or maybe just send their models to
you to try them out yourself and send us the results and your comments. This
could be a start at least.
I really
hope you all the best and wish to see you soon.
Take care and happy new year.
Omar
Dr. Omar Khattab
Department
of Architecture
Kuwait
University
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From: Ahmad
Okeil
To: Omar Khattab
Date:
08/01/2004 11:47
Subject:
Re: First student project on the CAVE
Thanks for your email.
Off course
we can cooperate. Most probably I will be teaching a course called
"Selected Topics In Architecture" next
semester. I will try to experiment with the cave and other VR tools with
the students. So I am open for any type of cooperation and
experimentation. But I must also say that my contract here ends next June
and I do not know yet were I will be teaching next year.
Do you mean having your students come here with
their digital models? I think you will be more than welcome.
As I posted on the webpage, a standard commercial
cave costs more than 1 million Dirhams. A huge
commercial cave must have cost Newcastle University a fortune. I do not
believe such systems are more beneficial to students than ours. On the contrary. King Fahd
University for Minirals and Petroleum for example
bought a small commercial cave, which is perhaps 10 times more expensive than
ours and offers maybe half what our cave offers.
I designed the UAEU-CAVE from scratch. Aluminum and mirrors were cut in a workshop in Al Ain. All the rest I built with my own hands after weeks of experimentation using off- the-shelf components. The software was developed jointly by a French programmer and myself. This gives me the advantage of upgrading the CAVE at a very low cost. For example, after my first experience with the students I found that adding a record/play feature to the software would help the student record the tour he had with the instructor and then replay the same tour later to think of design modifications. All I have to do is send this "vision" to the programmer and after maybe 3 days I get a new version to test and then have a new final version after 3 more days and so on. I also used standard PCs not expensive Silicon Graphics machines. This means that after a year we can give them to the secretary to do text processing on them and we get new powerful standard PCs. In other words our system is something like linux (open source) and commercial caves are like microsoft products (full of secrets). One more advantage for our system is that it uses the VRML format which could be exported from all modeling software students usually use. The internet is also loaded with tens of thousands of models in this format. These files are free, downloadable, easy to modify and could be used very effectively as a new medium for instruction. Imagine having "Graphic Standards" in 3D and when the student navigates and comes close to a bath tub some dimension lines appear and when he clicks on the tub he/she gets more information about its material for example. Students can also manipulate objects in the model so they can try different furniture arrangements in a room for example. There are endless interesting applications and ideas. I just do not have time to try them all.
Ahmad Okeil
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From: Yasser Mahgoub
To: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
08/01/2004 09:03
Subject:
Re: First student project on the CAVE
Dear Ahmed
Congratulations.
Very interesting work. I hope we can get one here.
Best
wishes,
Yasser
Dr. YASSER Osman Moharam MAHGOUB
Department
of Architecture
Kuwait
University
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From: Omar Khattab
To: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
08/01/2004 03:35
Subject:
Re: First student project on the CAVE
Dear Ahmad,
Very glad
to hear from you and to know about the important addition you have made to the
architectural programme at UAE university. I enjoyed looking at the first students' roject and hope that other ones will follow soon.
I was wondering
if we can have some cooperation in this field between UAE and Kuwait university? we don't have a CAVE here, but we're teaching 3D modeling to
our students e.g. Adobe Premier and FormZ, and the
like. It would be intersting
to show them on you CAVE. Maybe we just
need to work out the arrangements for that.
Last October I visited Newcastle University in England and they were
inaugurating a new high-tech building with a huge CAVE in it, as I was
told. It will be for the use of all
Colleges and Departments, although it is located in the School of
architecture. I guess the future holds
a lot of potentials for this technology.
By the way, did you build it locally or you imported it?
All the best.
Omar Khattab
Dr. Omar Khattab
Department
of Architecture
Kuwait
University
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From: Ahmad
Okeil
To:
Colleagues
Date:
06/01/2004 10:53
Subject:
Using the CAVE in our courses
Dear Colleagues,
Many have been asking if the CAVE is no more than a visualization tool. I
believe it is much more than that. Dr. Khalid Nabil and Dr. Somaya were asking
if it could be used in teaching building construction. I believe it could
be used in any field. Your imagination is the limit.
Our CAVE uses the VRML format, which is a well-known
format normally used on single screen computers. The internet is loaded
with thousands of 3D models in this format. And they are free to
download. They are also easy to modify. This is what gives our CAVE
more value compared to other commercial CAVES that use special formats.
So if you are interested you can search the net for VRML+AnyKeyWord.
Most probably you will find something interesting. Here is an example:
Search Yahoo for VRML + stairs
Yahoo finds 1660 hits. I tried the first four hits and found the
following two very interesting sites:
1- http://www.int3d.com/system/edit.cgi?url=http://www.int3d.com/data/i13001a.wrl
This site has examples of different types of
stairs. One of the models could be manipulated in real time. The
site also includes models of doors and windows.
2- http://www.ece.uwaterloo.ca/~vrml98/cdrom/papers/campbell/campbell.pdf
This is a paper in pdf
format titled "VRML in Architectural Construction Documents: A Case
Study". It concentrates on construction of stairs. I remember
reading it in one of the ACADIA proceedings. This shows that each of us
can write a paper on using the CAVE in his field.
So let us start collecting our VRML library and let us start thinking of
developing our own models. I will be willing to help.
Tomorrow I will send you a message describing the first experience of the
Design2 students with their 3D model in the CAVE.
Ahmad Okeil
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From: Bechir Kenzari
To: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
06/01/2004 10:02
Subject:
Re: Invitation.
Dear Ahmad:
Well-done. Keep
things up, have fun. Once we are done with exams, we have to sit down and do
more navigation in the cave. Or may be some fishing too!
Bechir
Dr. Bechir Kenzari,
Associate
Professor
Dept. of
Architectural Engineering, UAE University
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From: Ahmed
Mokhtar
To: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
06/01/2004 09:27
Subject:
UAEU-CAVE
It seems to
me that being a mainly visualization tool may not be very helpful in
collaboration. However, I believe it can be very useful in teaching
construction. I usually want my third year students to recognize the size,
shape, location, etc of beams, lintels, etc. It might be useful if a student
can make a computer model and we get into the model and we discuss the location
of these components. Did you ever try this?
Ahmed
Ahmed Mokhtar, PhD.
Assistant
Professor of Architectural Engineering
School of
Architecture and Design
American
University of Sharjah
United Arab
Emirates
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From: Ahmad
Okeil
To: Ahmed Mokhtar
Date:
06/01/2004 7:07
Subject:
UAEU-CAVE
I think it
would be possible to use it as a collaboration environment if we can connect
two remotely loacted caves together.
In the past
few days I let some students into the cave to see ready made models. Today was the first time to put a student
project on the cave and then take the students in a tour. The project was designed in a traditional
studio setup. After their final jury
last Sunday I asked four Design 2 students to make an extra effort by preparing
a sketchy 3D model using Autocad. These students were doing their second
project and did not take any serious 3D modeling course yet. They disappeared for one day and then came up
with the model shown at the end of this page:
http://www.engg.uaeu.ac.ae/a.okeil/uaeu-cave/
Although we
were not taking this activity seriously because it was after the final jury,
there were some amazing statements.
The first
statement from a student: Had I known how interesting the feeling of being
inside a building I designed is, I would have made a bigger effort to improve
my design.
My
comment: This is a statement I never
heard in 6 year. I usually hear from a
student that he/she has done ALL what he/she can and that he/she deserves the
highest grade possible.
The second
statement from an instructor: I feel
the design has developed alot in these 2 days.
Student
comment: We changed nothing since last
time!!!
I am sure I
will have more experience to share by the end of next semester.
Ahmad Okeil
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From: Karim Hadjri
To: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
06/01/2004 07:00
Subject:
Re: Invitation
Thanks for
the invitation and well done with the set up of the CAVE...
I am
attaching the Bug animation. Please test it and let me know. I would love to
come and see it.
Good luck,
Karim
Dr. Karim Hadjri
Department
of Architecture
United Arab
Emirates University
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From: Wael W. Al-Azhari
To: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
06/01/2004 03:28
Subject:
Re: UAEU-CAVE
Dear Dr.
Ahmed,
Thank you
very much for your email.
You are doing a very good job. And your
experiment is very impressive.
I am
interested to see more details of your virtual Reality Lab. I am an
architectural teacher at the Department of Architecture at Jordan. I am
teaching Computer courses for under-graduate students.
Thanking
you again.
Yours,
Wael W. Al-Azhari
Department
of Architecture
The
University of Jordan
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From: Ahmad
Okeil
To: Ramzi Hassan
Date:
05/01/2004 08:54
Subject:
CAVE Project
Thanks for your interest. I am sure we never met
during the ASCAAD because I did not attend.
The CAVE movie on the website was for a VRML model.
Thanks for sending me the information about the interesting conferences. I was
not aware about them. Off course I am open to any type of cooperation. Do you
already have an idea to work on or should we start by making some
brainstorming?
Ahmad Okeil
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From: Ramzi Hassan
To: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
05/01/2004 03:30
Subject:
CAVE Project
Dear Dr.
Ahmad Okeil,
I like to
wish you first a happy new year and congratulate you with the establishment of
the CAVE project at your VR lab at UAEU. I am not sure if I met you before
during the Ascaad conference, but I would like to do
that in the future. It was interesting to hear the news that there are efforts
available to establish such VR environments in Arabia. I am specialized in
computer visualizations in landscape architecture and urban planning. I have
been active in testing such environments for investigating urban planning
development scenarios. I have been working also in studying methods for
utilizing such environments in urban planning and landscape architectural design
education. Mainly I have been testing the following VR environments: the CAVE;
Flat screen VR theatre; and cylindrical screen VR theatre. In the study I
presented in my PhD thesis in November 2001 emphasis was placed in the use of
these types of VR environments as a communication tool in the planning process.
Particularly to include the public in the planning process in an early stage of
the design development (see Page 67 of the thesis attached). Another type of
visualization, which starts to be very popular, is the interactive Web based VR
visualizations (e.g. VRML and QTVR) as I witness some examples of VRML models
through your web site
As part of
your web site, I noticed a section about: Architectural Design Critique in
Multi-user Online Virtual Environments. In connection to this we at NLH
University are organizing a conference in September 2004 about Critique and
landscape design and education. May be a good opportunity to
present your online experience in architectural education in this conference (see
conference program attached). In addition, there will be another
conference in Dessau - Germany in May 2004 in which
the theme online education in architecture is included (see the Dessau-pdf file attached and also this link: www.masterla.de).
I like to
see in the coming future some kind of cooperation between us in this field. I
would like also to know more about your CAVE experiment especially the way you
have been able to reduce the installation costs. This might be useful for other
educational institutes and universities who are welling to incorporate VR
visualization techniques in their design program.
With my
best regards,
Dr. Ramzi Hassan
Ramzi Hassan, (Ph.D)
Associated Professor, Computer Visualizations in Urban Planning and
Landscape Architecture.
Department
of Landscape Architecture and Spatial Planning
Agricultural
University of Norway (NLH)
1432 Aas - Norway
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From: Amar BENNADJI
To: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
05/01/2004 03:18
Subject:
RE: UAEU-CAVE
Dear Ahmed
Okeil,
I tried to
use the link but couldn't access!!?
All the best.
Amar
Dr Amar BENNADJI
Lecturer,
Architecture and Architecture with Languages co-ordinator
Faculty of
Design and Technology
The Scott
Sutherland School
Robert
Gordon University
Aberdeen,
Scotland,
UK
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From: Hisham Elkadi
To: ASCAAD
(Arab Society for Computer aided Architectural Design)
Date:
05/01/2004 02:23
Subject:
RE: UAEU-CAVE
Hello
I have
looked carefully into the material sent by Ahmed Okeil. The
contribution of
UAEU is certainly worth noting but what is also interesting
is the
willingness to share detailed information. It will be great to have
an online
experience of this system and share its impact on architectural
education. If any
others in the group are using similar systems, it might be
useful to see how
'enthusiasm' and pedagogy of using the system can have
cultural
dimension to it.
Hisham
Professor
H. Elkadi
Professor
of Architecture
School of
Art & Design
University
of Ulster
Belfast
BT15 1ED, United Kingdom
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From:
Manfred Shrenk
To: Ahmad
Okeil
Subject:
RE: UAEU-CAVE
Date:
05/01/2004 01:33
Dear Ahmed,
thank you very
much for the info,
WOW!!! That
looks good! CONGRATULATIONS!!!
Regards,
Manfred
Manfred Shrenk
MULTIMEDIAPLAN.AT
DI Manfred Schrenk KEG
Loesungen für den realen und virtuellen Raum
WIEN -
Austria
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From: Ahmed
Okeil
To: Ahmed Mokhtar
Date:
04/01/2004 3:41
Subject:
Re: UAEU-CAVE
Dear Dr.
Ahmed,
The main
advantage of the CAVE is the feeling of being inside. I think students could start seeing how their
design errors really look like in reality (door opening on stairs with no
landing for example). However, the VRML
format used in the UAEU-CAVE allows not only showing the geometry of the model
and not only navigation through it but also allows interacting with the model
while immersed. You can manipulate
objects and you can model and visualize processes and phenomena of any kind.
Ahmad Okeil
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From: Ahmed
Mokhtar
To: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
04/01/2004 02:32
Subject:
UAEU-CAVE
Dear Dr.
Ahmed,
I was
thinking about using the CAVE in remote collaboration. But let me ask first.
What is the advantage of the CAVE over seeing a 3D model of a project on a
computer screen other than the feeling of being immersed? I might be missing
something important.
Ahmed
Ahmed Mokhtar, PhD.
Assistant
Professor of Architectural Engineering
School of
Architecture and Design
American
University of Sharjah
United Arab Emirates
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From: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
03/01/2004 12:48
To: ASCAAD
(Arab Society for Computer aided Architectural Design)
Subject:
Re: UAEU-CAVE
Dear Mr. Garba,
Thanks for the response. Nice to
hear about similar facilities in the region.
I think comparing performance and utilization of the UAEU-CAVE, which was
designed and constructed in-house to the performance and utilization of the Elumens Dome, which is a commercial product, would be a very interesting and useful
exercise. Before we could compare both systems we first have to design a
set of benchmarks. I would be glad to receive any suggestions from ascaad members to include in the comparison list.
Ahmad Okeil
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From: Shaibu Bala Garba
To: ASCAAD
(Arab Society for Computer aided Architectural Design)
Subject:
RE: UAEU-CAVE
Date:
03/01/2004 11:16
Dear Ahmed,
We have the
elumens 4-meter dome as well as the Vision Station.
We use XP to run it on a dual processor xeon machine
fitted with a Quadro 980 XGL VGA card. We acquired
and deployed the equipment last year. We do not unfortunately have a separate
website for the Virtual Reality Laboratory.
Thank you
Shaibu Bala Garba
Dept. of
Architecture
King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minirals
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From: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
03/01/2004 08:45
To: Ahmad
Okeil
Subject:
Re: UAEU-CAVE
VERY
IMPRESSIVE....Would like to come and see it soon enshaa
Allah...
Salam Shams
Prof. Shams
Eldien Naga
Dubai
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From: Ahmad
Okeil
To: Ahmed Mokhtar
Date: 03/01/2004
4:22
Subject:
Re: UAEU-CAVE
> Can
you see on the CAVE a file that is sent to you through the Internet?
If you mean
you send it as an email attachment, then why not? When I developed the CAVE I
gave big weight to achieving the most user-friendly system possible, otherwise
students won't enjoy using it. The
result is a system that can display still images in any known format,
Animations and videos in most known formats (still working on the
synchronization issue), 3D models in the popular VRML format which could be
exported from all CAD/Modeling software.
It is also
possible to run the model saved on your machine in Sharjah
on the CAVE in Al Ain. But this requires to have
the CAVE machines connected to the UAEU lan which is
not the case till now. There might also
be problems regarding firewalls on both sides, but it is doable. What do you have in mind?
>Can I
control from my computer here what you see in your CAVE?
I never
thought of that, but I think it is doable if we install remote control
software. I think even Netmeeting can do it.
But again the CAVE has to be connected to the UAEU lan, overcome firewall problems and then test the
system. But what is the benefit of
remotely navigating through a model on the CAVE if you are not physically
inside it?
Ahmad Okeil
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From: Muqeem Khan
To: Ahmad
Okeil
Subject:
CAVE
Date:
03/01/2004 02:45
Dear Dr.
I saw some pictures and info about CAVE, really interest me alot, is it possible to have a visit on site?
regards
Muqeem Khan
Assistant Professor of Digital Design
School of Architecture and Design
American University of Sharjah
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From: Shaibu Bala Garba
To: ASCAAD
(Arab Society for Computer aided Architectural Design)
Subject:
RE: UAEU-CAVE
Date:
02/01/2004 18:01
Dear
Colleagues
In the same
light, the King Fahd University of Petroleum and
Minerals Dhahran has established a Virtual Reality Laboratory based on Elumens Dome Series. I will be interesting to compare the
performance and utilization of both systems across the two schools
Shaibu Bala Garba
Dept. of
Architecture
King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minirals
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From: Khaled Rabie
Date: 02/01/2004 11:42
To: Ahmad Okeil
Subject: Re: UAEU-CAVE
Hi Ahmad,
It is really impressive the development at the Arabian universities (compared to our Era of Study).
Your efforts are great. Pls. don’t forget to give these experiences further to another Universities that might not have enough financial assistance.
If you want to get an approach to western & big Companies for cooperation, you should design and perform a professional website with your representative results.
All best regards
Khaled Rabie
Freier Architekt / Facility Manager
Berlin, Germany
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From: Ahmed
Mokhtar
To: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
02/01/2004 10:46
Subject:
UAEU-CAVE
Dear Dr.
Ahmed,
First of all, my congratulation for the CAVE. I have seen the movie and it is an excellent
piece of work.
Ahmed
Ahmed Mokhtar, PhD.
Assistant
Professor of Architectural Engineering
School of
Architecture and Design
American
University of Sharjah
United Arab
Emirates
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From: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
02/01/2004 7:39
To: ASCAAD
(Arab Society for Computer aided Architectural Design)
Subject:
Re: UAEU-CAVE
Dear Mr. Garba,
Thanks for
you response. I would be glad to compare
the home built system with the commercial systems.
As a
starting point, I need to know:
1- Which model of Elumens Dome do you
have at KFUPM ?
2- What
platform does it use?
3- How long
has it used ?
3- Is there
a website for the KFUPM VR-lab?
Ahmad Okeil
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From: Rajaa Issa
Date: 02/01/2004 5:16
To: ASCAAD
(Arab Society for Computer aided Architectural Design)
Subject: RE: UAEU-CAVE
Hi All,
It is very
interesting to see that the cutting edge technology is entering the region's
schools. It would be great to see experiences with these systems reported in
local and global conferences.
Rajaa Issa
3D Software
Developer, USA
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From: Yasser Hawas
To: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
01/01/2004 10:00
Subject:
UAEU-CAVE
This is amazing! beautiful. Great!
Yasser Hawas
Department
of Civil & Environmental Engineering
United Arab Emirates University
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From: Ahmad
Okeil
Date:
01/01/2004 05:34
To: ASCAAD
(Arab Society for Computer aided Architectural Design)
Subject: UAEU-CAVE
Dear Colleagues,
This mailing list has bee very quiet for a very long time. Here is
something that could help us start some discussions.
The Department of Architecture, United Arab
Emirates University has established a virtual reality lab. I am glad to
announce that the main component of this lab, the immersive CAVE, has started
operating last week. For more information please visit:
http://www.engg.uaeu.ac.ae/a.okeil/uaeu-cave/
Do not miss the movie at the end of the page.
And please send me your feedback if you have any.
Ahmad Okeil
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